Post by Orange Crazy on Jul 1, 2009 15:11:30 GMT -5
Session Start: Wed Jul 01 14:55:38 2009
Session Ident: kime
01[15:21] <orangesoda> hey so I think we should talk....
[15:22] <kime> mm?
01[15:22] <orangesoda> you posted this forums.penny-arcade.com/showpost.php?p=10666778&postcount=2094 and I really wanted to contact you, but didn't think it was really safe. I am now deciding to risk it
01[15:22] <orangesoda> we know rage can win by luck, and we can win by luck , but together im pretty srue we can both win using our combined power and some strategy
01[15:23] <orangesoda> based on how difficult this game has been for us, i am assuming we are missing something
01[15:23] <orangesoda> i am not sure if you have been lyign about your win condition or not,m but we are willing to wokr with you as well
[15:23] <kime> gimme a minute, it's loading slowly, i don't know what post you're referring to again...
[15:23] <kime> ah i see
01[15:23] <orangesoda>
[15:23] <kime> oh INTERESTING
01[15:23] <orangesoda> we wont to get in contact with rage...
01[15:23] <orangesoda> i believe there is a way that goblins
01[15:23] <orangesoda> ahava
01[15:23] <orangesoda> rage
01[15:23] <orangesoda> and you
01[15:23] <orangesoda> can win
[15:23] <kime> what's your condition?
01[15:24] <orangesoda> we can't let twice the number of gobins alive exit
[15:24] <kime> how many goblins do you have left?
01[15:24] <orangesoda> what is your exact win condition?
[15:24] <kime> rage needs to survive
[15:24] <kime> i need to "help one faction escape"
01[15:24] <orangesoda> rage can survice with us
[15:24] <kime> i assume, theoretically, i could do that with just one person?
01[15:24] <orangesoda> is rage a faction
01[15:24] <orangesoda> for your win condition?
[15:25] <kime> no
[15:25] <kime> only human, daemon, etc
01[15:25] <orangesoda> we obviously want ahava over b:l
01[15:25] <orangesoda> were you planning on winning with keika?
[15:25] <kime> i don't know about daemons
[15:25] <kime> i mean, if they make it, i'm all for them haha
[15:26] <kime> but i know i can get ahava to the end, so i've been working with her
01[15:26] <orangesoda> so you can't win with daemons?
[15:26] <kime> oh, i can
[15:26] <kime> i just don't know where they are in the maze...
01[15:26] <orangesoda> is rage zellpher?
[15:26] <kime> no, but no more freebies
01[15:26] <orangesoda> i gave you tons!
01[15:26] <orangesoda> <.<
01[15:26] <orangesoda> like the fact that im a goblin
[15:27] <kime> haha, true
01[15:27] <orangesoda> when otherwise i would have easily survived to the end
01[15:27] <orangesoda> something is going on thhat we dont know about
[15:27] <kime> i'm not gonna kill you
01[15:27] <orangesoda> this game has been super hard for us
[15:27] <kime> i have no need to kill you
01[15:27] <orangesoda> we dont want to accidently hit rage
[15:27] <kime> if you have any questions at all BESIDES NAMES i will help
01[15:27] <orangesoda> do you know anything about grimmy?
01[15:27] <orangesoda> apparently we should have contacted him
01[15:27] <orangesoda> we figured he was workign with you
[15:27] <kime> no
[15:27] <kime> he told me he was "not a faction"
[15:28] <kime> which was technically true, although i wish he'd have shared he was the minotaur :/
[15:28] <kime> after he was outed, we talked a bit
[15:28] <kime> his kill could break guards if the victim was on the exit square
[15:28] <kime> which was interesting
01[15:28] <orangesoda> oh god
01[15:28] <orangesoda> i wish we had known that
01[15:28] <orangesoda> fucking take out b:l
[15:28] <kime> i know :/
[15:28] <kime> have you tried to shoot B:L yet?
01[15:29] <orangesoda> yes
[15:29] <kime> is he busdriving himself, then?
01[15:29] <orangesoda> that was the bus driver on the vote
[15:29] <kime> ugh, he is doing that?
[15:29] <kime> that's working?
[15:29] <kime> crap...
01[15:29] <orangesoda> he was at least
01[15:29] <orangesoda> we haven't tried hitting the vote leader though
[15:29] <kime> hmm
01[15:29] <orangesoda> is it a true bus driver?
[15:29] <kime> ?
[15:29] <kime> i think
[15:29] <kime> to my knowledge, it is, i haven't tested though
[15:29] <kime> you know the "dwarven vengeance" kill?
01[15:29] <orangesoda> if rage doesn't hit goblins and we don't hit rage then we can both win... if we kill b:l and keika... you and ahava can win
01[15:29] <orangesoda> yeah
[15:30] <kime> yeah, that's ahava
[15:30] <kime> she gained that
[15:30] <kime> it only hurts her enemies
01[15:30] <orangesoda> yeah i know remember she told me all that in irc last night?
[15:30] <kime> so is rather helpful
01[15:30] <orangesoda> i really thought she was rage
[15:30] <kime> oh, no
[15:30] <kime> nope haha
01[15:30] <orangesoda> we dont care that she is a dwarf
[15:30] <kime> all right then, let's see...
[15:30] <kime> if ahava shoots B:L, and you shoot the vote-winner, that has a very good chance of killing B:L
01[15:31] <orangesoda> unless he is bus driving onto you
01[15:31] <orangesoda> and then it does nothing
[15:31] <kime> true
01[15:31] <orangesoda> but either way it might be worth the shot
[15:31] <kime> but it's better than nothing
[15:31] <kime> especially since we know he's been doing it before
01[15:31] <orangesoda> what about rage
01[15:31] <orangesoda> can we get in contact with him
01[15:32] <orangesoda> we can just vote out b:l tomorrow btw
01[15:32] <orangesoda> and save kills today
[15:32] <kime> just gimme a list of people, any size you want, that Rage can pick from that won't include Goblins
[15:32] <kime> the village will not want to vote out B:L
[15:32] <kime> and i don't know if i trust my clout to force it...
01[15:32] <orangesoda> they will if we try to expose him as selfish for keeping his whole group in the game
01[15:32] <orangesoda> can you tell us what team rage is on and we wont hit anyone from that team?
01[15:33] <orangesoda> also everyone that is able will be escaping tonight
01[15:33] <orangesoda> there will not be a majority backign B:L tomorrow
01[15:33] <orangesoda> unless there are other thing preventing people leaving other than factions
01[15:33] <orangesoda> ahava, b:l's group, you, rage, us should be left tomorrow
[15:33] <kime> not to my knowledge
[15:34] <kime> i may be gone, depending on if the daemons leave
01[15:34] <orangesoda> we do that and vote b:l out
01[15:34] <orangesoda> you and ahava win
[15:34] <kime> i will contact rage, if he agrees, i will tell you his name after close tonight
01[15:34] <orangesoda> we would obviously rather start workign with him today
[15:34] <kime> i know
[15:34] <kime> but i have to be paranoid
[15:34] <kime> hehe
01[15:34] <orangesoda> you think im not paranoid?
01[15:34] <orangesoda> this is either going to be the biggest mistake or the best gambit ever
01[15:34] <orangesoda>
01[15:34] <orangesoda> i like those odds
[15:34] <kime> hahaha
01[15:35] <orangesoda> you saw what i tried to do in guess who?
01[15:35] <orangesoda>
[15:35] <kime> yeah hahaha
[15:35] <kime> was funny
01[15:35] <orangesoda> also we can't have any goblins die tonight or less people will be able to escape and we can't guarentee that we will be able to let you escape while we have a chance of winning
01[15:35] <orangesoda> as it stands now we can win with you
01[15:36] <orangesoda> rage, ahava
[15:36] <kime> check your PMs, can you pick targets from that list?
01[15:36] <orangesoda> sec
[15:36] <kime> and you give me a list of people for Rage to hit, any size you want
[15:36] <kime> then, barring shenanigans on B:L's side, no goblins should die tonight
[15:37] <kime> tonight, also, shoot the vote leader
01[15:37] <orangesoda> what do you know about zellpher though.... he only has 6 posts and hasn't been killed for innactivity
[15:37] <kime> i will ask ahava to shoot B:L
[15:38] <kime> i know nothing of zellpher (i deleted some people randomly from the list so as not to make it obvious who Rage was)
[15:38] <kime> if you want to kill him, that's fine too
01[15:38] <orangesoda> im just worried that he is something special
01[15:38] <orangesoda> and has been active
[15:38] <kime> he is not rage, not a goblin i assume, not a faction member
01[15:38] <orangesoda> somewhere
[15:38] <kime> we already have 3 spirits/neutrals...
01[15:38] <orangesoda> also is my sister rage?
[15:38] <kime> i think he's jsut a vanillager.... but dunno
01[15:38] <orangesoda> i dont buy it ... she would have killed me day 1 if so
01[15:38] <orangesoda> lol
[15:38] <kime> sister = vert?
01[15:38] <orangesoda> yeah
[15:39] <kime> nope lol
01[15:39] <orangesoda> yeah i figured because i didnt die day 1 it wasnt her
01[15:39] <orangesoda> is it okay if we kill keika and keep you here so we have more votes for b:l tomorrow
[15:39] <kime> lol yeah
01[15:39] <orangesoda> i think that is the best plan
01[15:39] <orangesoda> rather than risking wsting kills
01[15:39] <orangesoda> we also don't know where b:l's bus driver is
[15:39] <kime> keika is not the last daemon
01[15:40] <orangesoda> oh interesting
[15:40] <kime> but if you'd like, i will not oppose
[15:40] <kime> there are 3 of each faction, you should be able to count
01[15:40] <orangesoda> i assumed she was the last
01[15:40] <orangesoda> tbh i got a slow start on this game
01[15:40] <orangesoda> because of the game i was running
01[15:40] <orangesoda> i didn't ss as much as i should have
[15:40] <kime> yeah, ok, forgiven... THIS ONCE
01[15:41] <orangesoda> i thought 2 daemons died?
[15:41] <kime> nope
01[15:41] <orangesoda> err looks like i mis counted
[15:41] <kime> just malkro
[15:41] <kime> malkor*
01[15:41] <orangesoda> do you need an entire faction to escape?
01[15:41] <orangesoda> the living ones anywy
01[15:42] <orangesoda> cause that makes a lot more sense why you are backing ahava and not keika's group
01[15:42] <orangesoda> plus she has a guard
[15:42] <kime> her guard is delightful lol
[15:42] <kime> and i don't know
[15:42] <kime> i need to "help a faction escape"
[15:43] <kime> so i assume all living members?
01[15:43] <orangesoda> you didnt clarify?
01[15:43] <orangesoda> yeah i would guess all of them personally
[15:43] <kime> i clarified what a faction was
01[15:43] <orangesoda> i like the ahava bet anyway because ahava > b"l or keika
[15:43] <kime> since this was a while ago before that was clear...
[15:43] <kime> B:L has been so annoying this game haha
[15:43] <kime> he doesn't cooperate!
01[15:44] <orangesoda> we can hit zellpher and tr tonight if rage wants to hit one of ustew/jdark/typhus
01[15:44] <orangesoda> i think you will exit with daemons tonight
[15:44] <kime> quite possibly
01[15:44] <orangesoda> which is why we need to get in touch with rage
01[15:45] <orangesoda> and vote our b:l tomorrow
01[15:45] <orangesoda> we have no qualms with him surviving.... also can he "exit"
01[15:45] <orangesoda> or does he need to stay in the maze till the end
[15:45] <kime> i've asked, he doesn't know
[15:46] <kime> just "survive"
[15:46] <kime> so i assume he doesn't have to leave?
01[15:46] <orangesoda> we will know tonight... like i said... everyone that can... will exit tonight
[15:46] <kime> yeah, so it appears, since we're all getting there tonight...
01[15:46] <orangesoda> kills come before the exit check
[15:47] <kime> yes
01[15:48] <orangesoda> also if you would rather us kill the other two daemons and leave you to vote out b:l and keep ahava guarded
[15:48] <kime> i think, at least, i seem to remember Labyrinth stuff was last
01[15:48] <orangesoda> we can do that too
[15:48] <kime> i'm fine with this, let's see if we can kill B:L tonight and save the trouble
01[15:49] <orangesoda> i dont think we can afford to waste the kills
01[15:49] <orangesoda> i can guarentee b"; won't have a majority vote tomorrow
[15:50] <kime> hmm
[15:50] <kime> i'd rather you not kill the remaining daemon...
01[15:51] <orangesoda> yeah thats okay
[15:51] <kime> but if you are not going to target the vote-winner, tell me, and i'll ask ahava to
01[15:51] <orangesoda> but its leaving ahava out to dry a little
01[15:51] <orangesoda> ohhhh
01[15:51] <orangesoda> thats brilliant
01[15:51] <orangesoda> have ahava do that
[15:51] <kime> ok
[15:51] <kime> i mean, if B:L isn't doint that anymore it won't work
[15:51] <kime> but if he is, i get ahava out too, which is nice
01[15:51] <orangesoda> yeh but if he is on anyone else... he could be killing a goblin, rage, or have you or ahva targeted
01[15:52] <orangesoda> are you the only one who knows who rage is or does bl know
[15:52] <kime> to my knowledge, i'm the only one
[15:52] <kime> i wanted to make myself valuable hahah
01[15:52] <orangesoda> yeah i haven't trusted b:l in a while
01[15:52] <orangesoda> lol
[15:52] <kime> well, wait, no one is directly targeting B:L, correct?
01[15:52] <orangesoda> correct
01[15:53] <orangesoda> its not worth the risk
[15:53] <kime> ok
[15:53] <kime> then he won't errantly kill anyone else
01[15:54] <orangesoda> actually would it be possible to not do the dwarf kill tonight... if his group exits thats bad for us
01[15:54] <orangesoda> unless rage is on his team and prevents that team from leavin
01[15:54] <orangesoda> which im not sure it would
[15:55] <kime> what about the dwarf kill?
01[15:55] <orangesoda> if b:l dies tonight his group exits
[15:55] <kime> ohhh
[15:55] <kime> i see
[15:55] <kime> yeah...
[15:55] <kime> hmm
01[15:55] <orangesoda> and that is more people that are "exited"
01[15:55] <orangesoda> we need 1 more day pretty much
[15:55] <kime> yeah
[15:55] <kime> ok, i will talk with ahava when she gets on later
01[15:55] <orangesoda> you should exit and win toinght
[15:56] <kime> i assume?
01[15:56] <orangesoda> but that leaves ahava un guarded
01[15:56] <orangesoda> we don't plan to hit her... so w/e
01[15:56] <orangesoda> the wildcard here is rage
[15:56] <kime> yeah
01[15:56] <orangesoda> if we dont kill him he wins
01[15:56] <orangesoda> if he doesnt kill us .. we win
[15:56] <kime> i already asked him, i'll see what he says
01[15:56] <orangesoda> him eh!
[15:56] <kime> he shouldn't kill you
01[15:56] <orangesoda> so it isnt vert
01[15:56] <orangesoda> mauhahaha
01[15:57] <orangesoda>
[15:57] <kime> true, but i already said that
01[15:57] <orangesoda> i know
01[15:57] <orangesoda> i just wanted to say muahahaha
01[15:57] <orangesoda>
[15:57] <kime> don't worry, i already checked that the two females were already cleared
[15:57] <kime> haha
[15:57] <kime> ok
01[15:57] <orangesoda> hehe
01[15:58] <orangesoda> btw
01[15:58] <orangesoda> f you vote out someone
01[15:58] <orangesoda> does their ability still go through?
01[15:58] <orangesoda> 3:57 PM manticorerend: no. The vote is first.
01[15:58] <orangesoda> so when we vote out b:l tomorrow he doesn't get his busdriver
[15:59] <kime> yeah, i already knew the vote was first, silly
01[15:59] <orangesoda> just let ahava know that tomorrow we plan to vote out b:l
01[15:59] <orangesoda> yeah i wan't sure how much order of action stuff you guys had
[15:59] <kime> i think it was public a while ago
01[15:59] <orangesoda> yeah makes snese
[15:59] <kime> but i don't remember...
01[15:59] <orangesoda> he "denied" one yesterday though about exiting
[15:59] <kime> yeah
01[16:00] <orangesoda> anyway let ahava know that we will work with her to vote out b:l tomorrow if she doesn't try to use her kill tonight
01[16:00] <orangesoda> you should win tonight
01[16:00] <orangesoda> unless... is there a daemon on b:l's team?
[16:01] <kime> hmmm, that would be annoying, wouldn't it?
[16:01] <kime> i should check that haha
01[16:01] <orangesoda> lol
01[16:01] <orangesoda> its okay if there is
01[16:01] <orangesoda> you will still win
01[16:01] <orangesoda> tomorrow
01[16:01] <orangesoda> when we get ahava out
[16:01] <kime> true
01[16:02] <orangesoda> tell rage to contact us
01[16:02] <orangesoda> ahava as well
01[16:02] <orangesoda> just so we know you passed stuff along
01[16:02] <orangesoda> otherwise ill contact her later
01[16:02] <orangesoda> cool?
[16:03] <kime> yup yup
[16:03] <kime> ummm if she doesn't contact you tonight remind me
[16:03] <kime> i may have forgotten to tell her to contact you, thinking it would be obvious/unecessary or whatnot
01[16:03] <orangesoda> yeah true
01[16:03] <orangesoda> no worries
01[16:03] <orangesoda> anyway if you don't sell us out... awesome... if so, well then you'll get your grudge... etc etc good luck to all
[16:04] <kime> haha, selling you out would be pointless
[16:04] <kime> but yes, good luck to us all!
01[16:04] <orangesoda> yeah thats what i figure
[16:04] <kime> how many people do you expect will escape tonight?
01[16:04] <orangesoda> also does it look like the obbi vote will go today?
[16:04] <kime> probly, i have no problems with that
01[16:05] <orangesoda> its really close either way
01[16:05] <orangesoda> i dont remember specificalyl
[16:05] <kime> i see... 15-ish people unknown to me? surely the majority of those are maze runners
01[16:05] <orangesoda> sec
[16:05] <kime> meaning yeah, it is gonna be close with you...
01[16:06] <orangesoda> i don't really wanna risk accidentally selling out the rest of the goblins
01[16:06] <orangesoda> but its gonna be really close
01[16:06] <orangesoda>
[16:06] <kime> haha, should be interesting!
01[16:06] <orangesoda> yeah def
01[16:06] <orangesoda> also totally hating on rend for making this super hard for use
01[16:06] <orangesoda> us*
01[16:06] <orangesoda> we had 1 innactivity death, 1 vote out, and a couple vig's
[16:06] <kime> IF YOU'D HAVE CONTACTED ME EARLIER!
[16:06] <kime> grrrr
01[16:06] <orangesoda> i wantd to!
01[16:06] <orangesoda> i always wanted to work with neutrals
01[16:07] <orangesoda> but they always side with the village!
01[16:07] <orangesoda> its hard to safely contact them you know?
01[16:07] <orangesoda> honestly if i had been under fire sooner
01[16:07] <orangesoda> i would hav
[16:07] <kime> usually 'cause the village is the only one to work with them haha
[16:07] <kime> yeah
[16:07] <kime> corpse should have contacted me
01[16:07] <orangesoda> i somehow got confirmed good
01[16:07] <orangesoda> lol
[16:07] <kime> since he was getting voted out
01[16:07] <orangesoda> when i was siding with fiaryn
01[16:07] <orangesoda> corpse was supposed to
[16:07] <kime> yeah, that's the village for you haha
01[16:07] <orangesoda> his internet died
[16:07] <kime> really?
01[16:07] <orangesoda> adifjidsjfiojasdfi
[16:08] <kime> awww, ouch
[16:08] <kime> man, can you imagine if you guys would've been working with me from day one?
01[16:08] <orangesoda> yeah srsly
01[16:08] <orangesoda> we would have 2 more goblins i think
[16:08] <kime> i was in contact with ~every special~ except blarney and grimmy
01[16:08] <orangesoda> lol
[16:08] <kime> since like... day 2 or something haha
01[16:08] <orangesoda> see that was the annoying part about this game
01[16:08] <orangesoda> killing specials didnt really help us
01[16:09] <orangesoda> they were keeping people in the maze
01[16:09] <orangesoda> also we weren't told the exit would start converging to the center
[16:09] <kime> true, actually...
01[16:09] <orangesoda> or it would have been impossible for anyone to ever win
[16:09] <kime> it's ok, we didn't know that either :/
01[16:10] <orangesoda> anyway i gotta run.
01[16:10] <orangesoda> good luck
[16:10] <kime> kk
[16:10] <kime> thanks
[16:10] <kime> byyye
Session Ident: kime
01[15:21] <orangesoda> hey so I think we should talk....
[15:22] <kime> mm?
01[15:22] <orangesoda> you posted this forums.penny-arcade.com/showpost.php?p=10666778&postcount=2094 and I really wanted to contact you, but didn't think it was really safe. I am now deciding to risk it
01[15:22] <orangesoda> we know rage can win by luck, and we can win by luck , but together im pretty srue we can both win using our combined power and some strategy
01[15:23] <orangesoda> based on how difficult this game has been for us, i am assuming we are missing something
01[15:23] <orangesoda> i am not sure if you have been lyign about your win condition or not,m but we are willing to wokr with you as well
[15:23] <kime> gimme a minute, it's loading slowly, i don't know what post you're referring to again...
[15:23] <kime> ah i see
01[15:23] <orangesoda>
[15:23] <kime> oh INTERESTING
01[15:23] <orangesoda> we wont to get in contact with rage...
01[15:23] <orangesoda> i believe there is a way that goblins
01[15:23] <orangesoda> ahava
01[15:23] <orangesoda> rage
01[15:23] <orangesoda> and you
01[15:23] <orangesoda> can win
[15:23] <kime> what's your condition?
01[15:24] <orangesoda> we can't let twice the number of gobins alive exit
[15:24] <kime> how many goblins do you have left?
01[15:24] <orangesoda> what is your exact win condition?
[15:24] <kime> rage needs to survive
[15:24] <kime> i need to "help one faction escape"
01[15:24] <orangesoda> rage can survice with us
[15:24] <kime> i assume, theoretically, i could do that with just one person?
01[15:24] <orangesoda> is rage a faction
01[15:24] <orangesoda> for your win condition?
[15:25] <kime> no
[15:25] <kime> only human, daemon, etc
01[15:25] <orangesoda> we obviously want ahava over b:l
01[15:25] <orangesoda> were you planning on winning with keika?
[15:25] <kime> i don't know about daemons
[15:25] <kime> i mean, if they make it, i'm all for them haha
[15:26] <kime> but i know i can get ahava to the end, so i've been working with her
01[15:26] <orangesoda> so you can't win with daemons?
[15:26] <kime> oh, i can
[15:26] <kime> i just don't know where they are in the maze...
01[15:26] <orangesoda> is rage zellpher?
[15:26] <kime> no, but no more freebies
01[15:26] <orangesoda> i gave you tons!
01[15:26] <orangesoda> <.<
01[15:26] <orangesoda> like the fact that im a goblin
[15:27] <kime> haha, true
01[15:27] <orangesoda> when otherwise i would have easily survived to the end
01[15:27] <orangesoda> something is going on thhat we dont know about
[15:27] <kime> i'm not gonna kill you
01[15:27] <orangesoda> this game has been super hard for us
[15:27] <kime> i have no need to kill you
01[15:27] <orangesoda> we dont want to accidently hit rage
[15:27] <kime> if you have any questions at all BESIDES NAMES i will help
01[15:27] <orangesoda> do you know anything about grimmy?
01[15:27] <orangesoda> apparently we should have contacted him
01[15:27] <orangesoda> we figured he was workign with you
[15:27] <kime> no
[15:27] <kime> he told me he was "not a faction"
[15:28] <kime> which was technically true, although i wish he'd have shared he was the minotaur :/
[15:28] <kime> after he was outed, we talked a bit
[15:28] <kime> his kill could break guards if the victim was on the exit square
[15:28] <kime> which was interesting
01[15:28] <orangesoda> oh god
01[15:28] <orangesoda> i wish we had known that
01[15:28] <orangesoda> fucking take out b:l
[15:28] <kime> i know :/
[15:28] <kime> have you tried to shoot B:L yet?
01[15:29] <orangesoda> yes
[15:29] <kime> is he busdriving himself, then?
01[15:29] <orangesoda> that was the bus driver on the vote
[15:29] <kime> ugh, he is doing that?
[15:29] <kime> that's working?
[15:29] <kime> crap...
01[15:29] <orangesoda> he was at least
01[15:29] <orangesoda> we haven't tried hitting the vote leader though
[15:29] <kime> hmm
01[15:29] <orangesoda> is it a true bus driver?
[15:29] <kime> ?
[15:29] <kime> i think
[15:29] <kime> to my knowledge, it is, i haven't tested though
[15:29] <kime> you know the "dwarven vengeance" kill?
01[15:29] <orangesoda> if rage doesn't hit goblins and we don't hit rage then we can both win... if we kill b:l and keika... you and ahava can win
01[15:29] <orangesoda> yeah
[15:30] <kime> yeah, that's ahava
[15:30] <kime> she gained that
[15:30] <kime> it only hurts her enemies
01[15:30] <orangesoda> yeah i know remember she told me all that in irc last night?
[15:30] <kime> so is rather helpful
01[15:30] <orangesoda> i really thought she was rage
[15:30] <kime> oh, no
[15:30] <kime> nope haha
01[15:30] <orangesoda> we dont care that she is a dwarf
[15:30] <kime> all right then, let's see...
[15:30] <kime> if ahava shoots B:L, and you shoot the vote-winner, that has a very good chance of killing B:L
01[15:31] <orangesoda> unless he is bus driving onto you
01[15:31] <orangesoda> and then it does nothing
[15:31] <kime> true
01[15:31] <orangesoda> but either way it might be worth the shot
[15:31] <kime> but it's better than nothing
[15:31] <kime> especially since we know he's been doing it before
01[15:31] <orangesoda> what about rage
01[15:31] <orangesoda> can we get in contact with him
01[15:32] <orangesoda> we can just vote out b:l tomorrow btw
01[15:32] <orangesoda> and save kills today
[15:32] <kime> just gimme a list of people, any size you want, that Rage can pick from that won't include Goblins
[15:32] <kime> the village will not want to vote out B:L
[15:32] <kime> and i don't know if i trust my clout to force it...
01[15:32] <orangesoda> they will if we try to expose him as selfish for keeping his whole group in the game
01[15:32] <orangesoda> can you tell us what team rage is on and we wont hit anyone from that team?
01[15:33] <orangesoda> also everyone that is able will be escaping tonight
01[15:33] <orangesoda> there will not be a majority backign B:L tomorrow
01[15:33] <orangesoda> unless there are other thing preventing people leaving other than factions
01[15:33] <orangesoda> ahava, b:l's group, you, rage, us should be left tomorrow
[15:33] <kime> not to my knowledge
[15:34] <kime> i may be gone, depending on if the daemons leave
01[15:34] <orangesoda> we do that and vote b:l out
01[15:34] <orangesoda> you and ahava win
[15:34] <kime> i will contact rage, if he agrees, i will tell you his name after close tonight
01[15:34] <orangesoda> we would obviously rather start workign with him today
[15:34] <kime> i know
[15:34] <kime> but i have to be paranoid
[15:34] <kime> hehe
01[15:34] <orangesoda> you think im not paranoid?
01[15:34] <orangesoda> this is either going to be the biggest mistake or the best gambit ever
01[15:34] <orangesoda>
01[15:34] <orangesoda> i like those odds
[15:34] <kime> hahaha
01[15:35] <orangesoda> you saw what i tried to do in guess who?
01[15:35] <orangesoda>
[15:35] <kime> yeah hahaha
[15:35] <kime> was funny
01[15:35] <orangesoda> also we can't have any goblins die tonight or less people will be able to escape and we can't guarentee that we will be able to let you escape while we have a chance of winning
01[15:35] <orangesoda> as it stands now we can win with you
01[15:36] <orangesoda> rage, ahava
[15:36] <kime> check your PMs, can you pick targets from that list?
01[15:36] <orangesoda> sec
[15:36] <kime> and you give me a list of people for Rage to hit, any size you want
[15:36] <kime> then, barring shenanigans on B:L's side, no goblins should die tonight
[15:37] <kime> tonight, also, shoot the vote leader
01[15:37] <orangesoda> what do you know about zellpher though.... he only has 6 posts and hasn't been killed for innactivity
[15:37] <kime> i will ask ahava to shoot B:L
[15:38] <kime> i know nothing of zellpher (i deleted some people randomly from the list so as not to make it obvious who Rage was)
[15:38] <kime> if you want to kill him, that's fine too
01[15:38] <orangesoda> im just worried that he is something special
01[15:38] <orangesoda> and has been active
[15:38] <kime> he is not rage, not a goblin i assume, not a faction member
01[15:38] <orangesoda> somewhere
[15:38] <kime> we already have 3 spirits/neutrals...
01[15:38] <orangesoda> also is my sister rage?
[15:38] <kime> i think he's jsut a vanillager.... but dunno
01[15:38] <orangesoda> i dont buy it ... she would have killed me day 1 if so
01[15:38] <orangesoda> lol
[15:38] <kime> sister = vert?
01[15:38] <orangesoda> yeah
[15:39] <kime> nope lol
01[15:39] <orangesoda> yeah i figured because i didnt die day 1 it wasnt her
01[15:39] <orangesoda> is it okay if we kill keika and keep you here so we have more votes for b:l tomorrow
[15:39] <kime> lol yeah
01[15:39] <orangesoda> i think that is the best plan
01[15:39] <orangesoda> rather than risking wsting kills
01[15:39] <orangesoda> we also don't know where b:l's bus driver is
[15:39] <kime> keika is not the last daemon
01[15:40] <orangesoda> oh interesting
[15:40] <kime> but if you'd like, i will not oppose
[15:40] <kime> there are 3 of each faction, you should be able to count
01[15:40] <orangesoda> i assumed she was the last
01[15:40] <orangesoda> tbh i got a slow start on this game
01[15:40] <orangesoda> because of the game i was running
01[15:40] <orangesoda> i didn't ss as much as i should have
[15:40] <kime> yeah, ok, forgiven... THIS ONCE
01[15:41] <orangesoda> i thought 2 daemons died?
[15:41] <kime> nope
01[15:41] <orangesoda> err looks like i mis counted
[15:41] <kime> just malkro
[15:41] <kime> malkor*
01[15:41] <orangesoda> do you need an entire faction to escape?
01[15:41] <orangesoda> the living ones anywy
01[15:42] <orangesoda> cause that makes a lot more sense why you are backing ahava and not keika's group
01[15:42] <orangesoda> plus she has a guard
[15:42] <kime> her guard is delightful lol
[15:42] <kime> and i don't know
[15:42] <kime> i need to "help a faction escape"
[15:43] <kime> so i assume all living members?
01[15:43] <orangesoda> you didnt clarify?
01[15:43] <orangesoda> yeah i would guess all of them personally
[15:43] <kime> i clarified what a faction was
01[15:43] <orangesoda> i like the ahava bet anyway because ahava > b"l or keika
[15:43] <kime> since this was a while ago before that was clear...
[15:43] <kime> B:L has been so annoying this game haha
[15:43] <kime> he doesn't cooperate!
01[15:44] <orangesoda> we can hit zellpher and tr tonight if rage wants to hit one of ustew/jdark/typhus
01[15:44] <orangesoda> i think you will exit with daemons tonight
[15:44] <kime> quite possibly
01[15:44] <orangesoda> which is why we need to get in touch with rage
01[15:45] <orangesoda> and vote our b:l tomorrow
01[15:45] <orangesoda> we have no qualms with him surviving.... also can he "exit"
01[15:45] <orangesoda> or does he need to stay in the maze till the end
[15:45] <kime> i've asked, he doesn't know
[15:46] <kime> just "survive"
[15:46] <kime> so i assume he doesn't have to leave?
01[15:46] <orangesoda> we will know tonight... like i said... everyone that can... will exit tonight
[15:46] <kime> yeah, so it appears, since we're all getting there tonight...
01[15:46] <orangesoda> kills come before the exit check
[15:47] <kime> yes
01[15:48] <orangesoda> also if you would rather us kill the other two daemons and leave you to vote out b:l and keep ahava guarded
[15:48] <kime> i think, at least, i seem to remember Labyrinth stuff was last
01[15:48] <orangesoda> we can do that too
[15:48] <kime> i'm fine with this, let's see if we can kill B:L tonight and save the trouble
01[15:49] <orangesoda> i dont think we can afford to waste the kills
01[15:49] <orangesoda> i can guarentee b"; won't have a majority vote tomorrow
[15:50] <kime> hmm
[15:50] <kime> i'd rather you not kill the remaining daemon...
01[15:51] <orangesoda> yeah thats okay
[15:51] <kime> but if you are not going to target the vote-winner, tell me, and i'll ask ahava to
01[15:51] <orangesoda> but its leaving ahava out to dry a little
01[15:51] <orangesoda> ohhhh
01[15:51] <orangesoda> thats brilliant
01[15:51] <orangesoda> have ahava do that
[15:51] <kime> ok
[15:51] <kime> i mean, if B:L isn't doint that anymore it won't work
[15:51] <kime> but if he is, i get ahava out too, which is nice
01[15:51] <orangesoda> yeh but if he is on anyone else... he could be killing a goblin, rage, or have you or ahva targeted
01[15:52] <orangesoda> are you the only one who knows who rage is or does bl know
[15:52] <kime> to my knowledge, i'm the only one
[15:52] <kime> i wanted to make myself valuable hahah
01[15:52] <orangesoda> yeah i haven't trusted b:l in a while
01[15:52] <orangesoda> lol
[15:52] <kime> well, wait, no one is directly targeting B:L, correct?
01[15:52] <orangesoda> correct
01[15:53] <orangesoda> its not worth the risk
[15:53] <kime> ok
[15:53] <kime> then he won't errantly kill anyone else
01[15:54] <orangesoda> actually would it be possible to not do the dwarf kill tonight... if his group exits thats bad for us
01[15:54] <orangesoda> unless rage is on his team and prevents that team from leavin
01[15:54] <orangesoda> which im not sure it would
[15:55] <kime> what about the dwarf kill?
01[15:55] <orangesoda> if b:l dies tonight his group exits
[15:55] <kime> ohhh
[15:55] <kime> i see
[15:55] <kime> yeah...
[15:55] <kime> hmm
01[15:55] <orangesoda> and that is more people that are "exited"
01[15:55] <orangesoda> we need 1 more day pretty much
[15:55] <kime> yeah
[15:55] <kime> ok, i will talk with ahava when she gets on later
01[15:55] <orangesoda> you should exit and win toinght
[15:56] <kime> i assume?
01[15:56] <orangesoda> but that leaves ahava un guarded
01[15:56] <orangesoda> we don't plan to hit her... so w/e
01[15:56] <orangesoda> the wildcard here is rage
[15:56] <kime> yeah
01[15:56] <orangesoda> if we dont kill him he wins
01[15:56] <orangesoda> if he doesnt kill us .. we win
[15:56] <kime> i already asked him, i'll see what he says
01[15:56] <orangesoda> him eh!
[15:56] <kime> he shouldn't kill you
01[15:56] <orangesoda> so it isnt vert
01[15:56] <orangesoda> mauhahaha
01[15:57] <orangesoda>
[15:57] <kime> true, but i already said that
01[15:57] <orangesoda> i know
01[15:57] <orangesoda> i just wanted to say muahahaha
01[15:57] <orangesoda>
[15:57] <kime> don't worry, i already checked that the two females were already cleared
[15:57] <kime> haha
[15:57] <kime> ok
01[15:57] <orangesoda> hehe
01[15:58] <orangesoda> btw
01[15:58] <orangesoda> f you vote out someone
01[15:58] <orangesoda> does their ability still go through?
01[15:58] <orangesoda> 3:57 PM manticorerend: no. The vote is first.
01[15:58] <orangesoda> so when we vote out b:l tomorrow he doesn't get his busdriver
[15:59] <kime> yeah, i already knew the vote was first, silly
01[15:59] <orangesoda> just let ahava know that tomorrow we plan to vote out b:l
01[15:59] <orangesoda> yeah i wan't sure how much order of action stuff you guys had
[15:59] <kime> i think it was public a while ago
01[15:59] <orangesoda> yeah makes snese
[15:59] <kime> but i don't remember...
01[15:59] <orangesoda> he "denied" one yesterday though about exiting
[15:59] <kime> yeah
01[16:00] <orangesoda> anyway let ahava know that we will work with her to vote out b:l tomorrow if she doesn't try to use her kill tonight
01[16:00] <orangesoda> you should win tonight
01[16:00] <orangesoda> unless... is there a daemon on b:l's team?
[16:01] <kime> hmmm, that would be annoying, wouldn't it?
[16:01] <kime> i should check that haha
01[16:01] <orangesoda> lol
01[16:01] <orangesoda> its okay if there is
01[16:01] <orangesoda> you will still win
01[16:01] <orangesoda> tomorrow
01[16:01] <orangesoda> when we get ahava out
[16:01] <kime> true
01[16:02] <orangesoda> tell rage to contact us
01[16:02] <orangesoda> ahava as well
01[16:02] <orangesoda> just so we know you passed stuff along
01[16:02] <orangesoda> otherwise ill contact her later
01[16:02] <orangesoda> cool?
[16:03] <kime> yup yup
[16:03] <kime> ummm if she doesn't contact you tonight remind me
[16:03] <kime> i may have forgotten to tell her to contact you, thinking it would be obvious/unecessary or whatnot
01[16:03] <orangesoda> yeah true
01[16:03] <orangesoda> no worries
01[16:03] <orangesoda> anyway if you don't sell us out... awesome... if so, well then you'll get your grudge... etc etc
good luck to all[16:04] <kime> haha, selling you out would be pointless
[16:04] <kime> but yes, good luck to us all!
01[16:04] <orangesoda> yeah thats what i figure
[16:04] <kime> how many people do you expect will escape tonight?
01[16:04] <orangesoda> also does it look like the obbi vote will go today?
[16:04] <kime> probly, i have no problems with that
01[16:05] <orangesoda> its really close either way
01[16:05] <orangesoda> i dont remember specificalyl
[16:05] <kime> i see... 15-ish people unknown to me? surely the majority of those are maze runners
01[16:05] <orangesoda> sec
[16:05] <kime> meaning yeah, it is gonna be close with you...
01[16:06] <orangesoda> i don't really wanna risk accidentally selling out the rest of the goblins
01[16:06] <orangesoda> but its gonna be really close
01[16:06] <orangesoda>
[16:06] <kime> haha, should be interesting!
01[16:06] <orangesoda> yeah def
01[16:06] <orangesoda> also totally hating on rend for making this super hard for use
01[16:06] <orangesoda> us*
01[16:06] <orangesoda> we had 1 innactivity death, 1 vote out, and a couple vig's
[16:06] <kime> IF YOU'D HAVE CONTACTED ME EARLIER!
[16:06] <kime> grrrr
01[16:06] <orangesoda> i wantd to!
01[16:06] <orangesoda> i always wanted to work with neutrals
01[16:07] <orangesoda> but they always side with the village!
01[16:07] <orangesoda> its hard to safely contact them you know?
01[16:07] <orangesoda> honestly if i had been under fire sooner
01[16:07] <orangesoda> i would hav
[16:07] <kime> usually 'cause the village is the only one to work with them haha
[16:07] <kime> yeah
[16:07] <kime> corpse should have contacted me
01[16:07] <orangesoda> i somehow got confirmed good
01[16:07] <orangesoda> lol
[16:07] <kime> since he was getting voted out
01[16:07] <orangesoda> when i was siding with fiaryn
01[16:07] <orangesoda> corpse was supposed to
[16:07] <kime> yeah, that's the village for you haha
01[16:07] <orangesoda> his internet died
[16:07] <kime> really?
01[16:07] <orangesoda> adifjidsjfiojasdfi
[16:08] <kime> awww, ouch
[16:08] <kime> man, can you imagine if you guys would've been working with me from day one?
01[16:08] <orangesoda> yeah srsly
01[16:08] <orangesoda> we would have 2 more goblins i think
[16:08] <kime> i was in contact with ~every special~ except blarney and grimmy
01[16:08] <orangesoda> lol
[16:08] <kime> since like... day 2 or something haha
01[16:08] <orangesoda> see that was the annoying part about this game
01[16:08] <orangesoda> killing specials didnt really help us
01[16:09] <orangesoda> they were keeping people in the maze
01[16:09] <orangesoda> also we weren't told the exit would start converging to the center
[16:09] <kime> true, actually...
01[16:09] <orangesoda> or it would have been impossible for anyone to ever win
[16:09] <kime> it's ok, we didn't know that either :/
01[16:10] <orangesoda> anyway i gotta run.
01[16:10] <orangesoda> good luck
[16:10] <kime> kk
[16:10] <kime> thanks
[16:10] <kime> byyye
